Eldorado (Questions/Suggestions)

[Arccai]

Greetings!

I'd like to start off by saying that this is truly an outstanding move!
I'm sure a lot of us will join together and really get a taste of that old nostalgia.

The project will have it's release in a few days after all.
It's fully understandable if some of these questions can't be answered yet,
but i appreciate the answers i do receive, and i'll share some of my personal suggestions,
which i believe to lean towards a successful status.

Payment Advantages

Back in the day, one of the biggest aspect was infact that everything was based on the ingame currency (Gold)
The Traders with their precious cargo, Hunters that received a cut for protecting, and the Thieves that stole and sold those treasures.
By interacting real-currency coming outside of the game will interfere with this aspect, big time.
Could be dangerous to the server's health on a big scale, take this for example.
If a player could simply purchase ton of Silk-items, and resell all that for gold, the jobs would all of sudden feel very pointless and not meaningful at all, and the gold would also lose it's value in time.
Finding items out in the wild while grinding should feel very rewarding, and the only way for that to maintain is to keep the gold to have it's correct value.

My suggestion here is to simply make everything from silk store account-bound.
This is to prevent players to become rich by simply swiping their credit card, and let the world of Eldorado to have an equal atmosphere, just like it was back in the day instead.

Silk Store

The Silk Store should consist of items such as HP/MP Potions, Grab Pets, Exp Tickets, Stall Decorations etc etc,
these item's are not extreme, and will not have a big impact on the actual gameplay.
Avoiding items such as stats/skill resets would most likely be a success here,
You're not suppose to have the option to reset.
Building your character from the ground was also a big hit in this game, if you decided to go Full Int, then yes, there will be a difficult path ahead until reaching those nukes,
There should not be any shortcuts by letting these items be involved.

Cosmetics

Back in the day, the appearance of a player also played a big role in this game, it represented the items as a status.
Wearing D5 items and letting your surrounding see that was an achievement for some.
Not to mention being able to separate the types, Armor, Protector and Garment.
Adding items such as Avatars / Cosmetics with enchant options, will (i'm afriad) also ruin this aspect.
It will without question remove the nostalgia, and game mechanics by seeing everyone running around in fancy pirate dresses in comparison to the real thing.

Old Files

Again, if we're going back to the earliest stage of the game, the retro and nostalgia will not last if the game will run with all these new features,
We're not suppose to see the available quests, snow shield does not exists here, uniques are not shown in an availability tracker.

[Simplicity]

Hello,

Thanks for the feedback.

Most of these are already taken in consideration for the server.

Regards,

[Simplicity]

Payment Advantages

Back in the day, one of the biggest aspect was infact that everything was based on the ingame currency (Gold)
The Traders with their precious cargo, Hunters that received a cut for protecting, and the Thieves that stole and sold those treasures.
By interacting real-currency coming outside of the game will interfere with this aspect, big time.
Could be dangerous to the server's health on a big scale, take this for example.
If a player could simply purchase ton of Silk-items, and resell all that for gold, the jobs would all of sudden feel very pointless and not meaningful at all, and the gold would also lose it's value in time.
Finding items out in the wild while grinding should feel very rewarding, and the only way for that to maintain is to keep the gold to have it's correct value.

My suggestion here is to simply make everything from silk store account-bound.
This is to prevent players to become rich by simply swiping their credit card, and let the world of Eldorado to have an equal atmosphere, just like it was back in the day instead.



Hello,

This part here isn't all right in our opinion, even though we know that's how it was back then.

If we close the silk scrolls and make all item mall items untradeable. Then, only the paying users will have the advantage. Then it will become a matter of who purchases more silk and non-payiing users will never have a chance to get good items, do alchemy past +5 without the risk or losing the item, premium etc.

Whereas if we enable silk scrolls, everyone can work hard to get the gold and purchase silk items with it and everyone would have a chance to succeed. This is proven on the current server (Genesis) where non-paying users are also seen on to player lists and with strong equipment.
You cannot create gold with silk, you can only make it change hands. In the end the Job activity and grinding are the only way to generate gold.

Having silk scrolls is a fair trade between those who have the gold and want silk and vice-versa.

Regards,

[Arccai]

Hello,

Thanks for the feedback.

Most of these are already taken in consideration for the server.

Regards,

Thanks for the quick response, that's lovely news!
Can't wait for the big day (:

[Jossembert]

Removing silk scrolls will put the non-donators players into a hard situation, because they won't be able to obtain those silks, and then it won't be balanced between non-donators and donators players and it will be a 100% p2w server.

Also the gold can be farmed in the commerce, the buy/sell items in the town, exchanges and more.

[Samano]

"My suggestion here is to simply make everything from silk store account-bound."


And that my friend is how you make a server pay to win. A big no go!




"Adding items such as Avatars / Cosmetics with enchant options, will (i'm afriad) also ruin this aspect."


Maybe a setting in the options to hide avatars?

[Tarcher]

Silks being tradeable is good for the ones who doesn't wanna play for long hours and for the ones who lives in a country with bad currency.

My question is will eldorado receive EU race after level 80? (Please, yes :) )

[Simplicity]

Silks being tradeable is good for the ones who doesn't wanna play for long hours and for the ones who lives in a country with bad currency.

My question is will eldorado receive EU race after level 80? (Please, yes :) )

Hello,

Eldorado will be a Chinese Only server.

[Tarcher]

Hello,

Eldorado will be a Chinese Only server.


Oh I am really sad about this, I thought we would have EU in 80 cap :(

[Dexsive]

Hello,

Eldorado will be a Chinese Only server.


such a great news

i know sv will be cap 60 but 1x exp solo and pt is to low.. if u maybe will increaze xp pt to 2x or a considerable amount of xp will come from quest..

[Simplicity]

such a great news

i know sv will be cap 60 but 1x exp solo and pt is to low.. if u maybe will increaze xp pt to 2x or a considerable amount of xp will come from quest..

The server will be as close as possible to old cap 60 times, including exp, sp, drop, job reward etc.

The full details will be published soon here at the forums.

Regards,

[Samano]

The server will be as close as possible to old cap 60 times, including exp, sp, drop, job reward etc.

The full details will be published soon here at the forums.

Regards,

Any information regarding balancing the skills? My fear is that we will only see STR Bows and STR Glavies since INT chars won't have Snow Shield (At least it didn't exist back then) and I guess Bladers won't do enough damage to kill anything really.

Do you have any experience how the different builds behave in 60 Cap?

[Simplicity]

Please wait for the announcement to know everything about the server.

[rev6]

Will it have snow shield/pain/party mobs? I know these things didn't exist with cap 60, but without them, especially party mobs and snow shield, it's going to be a very unsociable game. Chinese back in the day was mostly LTP, solo grinding.

[Simplicity]

Will it have snow shield/pain/party mobs? I know these things didn't exist with cap 60, but without them, especially party mobs and snow shield, it's going to be a very unsociable game. Chinese back in the day was mostly LTP, solo grinding.

No it wont. they didnt exist at cap 60.

[Dexsive]

801802


those game launchers, right in the feels...:Emoji Smiley-122::Emoji Smiley-43:

[Klose]

The avatar concerns is a big point. These should definitly not be implemented on a 60cap server. They brake the looks and memories of the old times....

I want to see my true equiped armour and show my surroundings what degree Im currently at and how far my progress is. Those avatars really broke the game for me back then when they were released in the 80cap. It makes the hard work and progress worthless, when a lv 1 char looks the same as a lv 60 player.

[rev6]

I thought as much. There's very little info out right now. One last question. 300 mastery = 5 masteries?

[AutumnWind]

The avatar concerns is a big point. These should definitly not be implemented on a 60cap server. They brake the looks and memories of the old times....

I want to see my true equiped armour and show my surroundings what degree Im currently at and how far my progress is. Those avatars really broke the game for me back then when they were released in the 80cap. It makes the hard work and progress worthless, when a lv 1 char looks the same as a lv 60 player.

He has a point. I understand that Avatars are a good source of income for the servers.
However, @Simplicity, do you think is t possible to add a "Hide Avatars" options?

[rev6]

The avatar concerns is a big point. These should definitly not be implemented on a 60cap server. They brake the looks and memories of the old times....

I want to see my true equiped armour and show my surroundings what degree Im currently at and how far my progress is. Those avatars really broke the game for me back then when they were released in the 80cap. It makes the hard work and progress worthless, when a lv 1 char looks the same as a lv 60 player.

Well since they aren't adding Snow Shield or Pain or Party Mobs. There should be no avatars.

[Simplicity]

No snow, no avatars, no PT mobs. just wait for the official announcement to know all the details :)

[rev6]

No snow, no avatars, no PT mobs. just wait for the official announcement to know all the details :)

I'm intrigued but also concerned

[Klose]

I can't find the details about the server. Where are they posted?

[Simplicity]

Not yet posted, soon.

[AutumnWind]

Soon means one hour before the start?
There are 20 hours left till the server is online.
We should have the details.

[Klose]

Not yet posted, soon.


What does soon mean? Its almost sleeping time in Europe.

[Simplicity]

What does soon mean? Its almost sleeping time in Europe.



https://forum.playorigin.com/showthread.php?3683-Origin-Server-Eldorado-Detailed-Information

[rev6]

https://forum.playorigin.com/showthread.php?3683-Origin-Server-Eldorado-Detailed-Information

A question. If your goal is to be as authentic to the original experience, why 5 masteries?

[Simplicity]

A question. If your goal is to be as authentic to the original experience, why 5 masteries?


300 mastery levels is the original value on cap 60. the masteries are not in the same section like Origin Genesis.

[Deno]

i really hope you gonna add fortress war. im pretty sure many people would agree and would like to have it

[AutumnWind]

https://forum.playorigin.com/showthread.php?3683-Origin-Server-Eldorado-Detailed-Information

What is the point of having 1x party exp? This will make the game feel really lonely as there is no other benefit then solo griding. Not even LTP's to meet new people?
You should encourage comunity over nostalgia. If it was in the old school version it doesnt mean it was good in the first place. You have the power to change that.

I highly doubt that anyone will complain if party exp was x1.1 or more.

[Dexsive]

3x bonus quest xp will be on eldorado to? extra xp sp etc

[Simplicity]

3x bonus quest xp will be on eldorado to? extra xp sp etc


No, only on Genesis.

[hasankebap]

is there possible to giving information about item mall prices , we want to donate before grand opening ,

[Simplicity]

Hello,

You will have to check it at the opening. sorry.

[AutumnWind]

Will party matching be enabled?

[Salvero]

Hello,

what about the endgame content?
After you reach lvl 60 there is nothing to do anymore right?

[SatanTeemo]

please dont change anything about exp or quest exp rates,

i LOVE The "No Pain No Gain" server :D

[hasankebap]

well can we donate with credit card in Eldorado ? we wanna donate but only e-pin usable :( when will be enable payment wall in Eldorado ?
usableusable

[sibiumarius]

you should remove x-large pet potions , or it will ruin low lvl trading , or just recstrict them for lvl 60 only

[Lisanne]

What is the point of having 1x party exp? This will make the game feel really lonely as there is no other benefit then solo griding. Not even LTP's to meet new people?
You should encourage comunity over nostalgia. If it was in the old school version it doesnt mean it was good in the first place. You have the power to change that.

I highly doubt that anyone will complain if party exp was x1.1 or more.

Full LTP gives either 10 or 20% bonus exp on original SRO, so it SHOULD also give it here (im not 100% sure ofc)