Dont allow 2 accounts per pc please.

[Spartacuz]

This has so many disadvantages.

-Server crowded with stalls
-Spies (job) everywhere
-2 traders from same person per caravan, meaning gold overflow
-bard/warriors/any buffers tracing in fortress wars
-people with actual 2 or 3 pc's will just use hotspot to surround the IP system, thus making themself a full pt of buffers
-Less server space for actual players

Its fine as it is, why change it?

Also, since server reached 1k + now, will guildlimits be raised?

Feel free to share your opinions

[Kashmir]

Agreed. Please don't do this.

I have no idea who wanted this. The client limit of 1 per pc is in my opinion one of the best features of this server.

[Simplicity]

Keep the feedback coming

[Miss_Leila]

This has so many disadvantages.

-Server crowded with stalls
-Spies (job) everywhere
-2 traders from same person per caravan, meaning gold overflow
-bard/warriors/any buffers tracing in fortress wars
-people with actual 2 or 3 pc's will just use hotspot to surround the IP system, thus making themself a full pt of buffers
-Less server space for actual players

Its fine as it is, why change it?

Also, since server reached 1k + now, will guildlimits be raised?

Feel free to share your opinions

I agree with Sparta.

Simpli the server has a good content. Try to develop this instead of allowing 2 clients per pc. That is not origin sro.

By the way, do we get a second fort? Or an increase of the guild slots?

Thank you for responding.

Best wishes,
Flo

[Simplicity]

I agree with Sparta.

Simpli the server has a good content. Try to develop this instead of allowing 2 clients per pc. That is not origin sro.

By the way, do we get a second fort? Or an increase of the guild slots?

Thank you for responding.

Best wishes,
Flo

Thanks,

We're preparing some changes now that we have more players. To be announced yet. We have many things going on at the moment, so we appreciate your patience.

Regards,

[rev6]

People that have multiple PC's could run multiple characters. That is still possible today, albeit, only 2 now. This is not accounting for VPN's or proxies, I'm not sure how that's being handled with here.

Currently now people with access to more than a single PC have an advantage over everyone else. They can stall and grind, buff their main character, plvl a new one, whatever. This is an unfair advantage.

If you do enable 2 per PC but also stay with the 2 per IP rule, then it's fair for everyone. Yes I can see plenty of disadvantages for it also but I am looking at the possibility of stalling and grinding. That's really all I'd need it for. Once the stall network is here, I mean the consighnment like iSRO, then there would be no need for it. Then I would say limiting it back to 1 per PC.

Perhaps give it a try. See how it works. Get feedback from it and then see how people like it, or dislike it.

[Mitus]

Agree with everything what has been said, no point to get more dead chars than actual players imo.
Thx!

[Simplicity]

People that have multiple PC's could run multiple characters. That is still possible today, albeit, only 2 now. This is not accounting for VPN's or proxies, I'm not sure how that's being handled with here.

Currently now people with access to more than a single PC have an advantage over everyone else. They can stall and grind, buff their main character, plvl a new one, whatever. This is an unfair advantage.

If you do enable 2 per PC but also stay with the 2 per IP rule, then it's fair for everyone. Yes I can see plenty of disadvantages for it also but I am looking at the possibility of stalling and grinding. That's really all I'd need it for. Once the stall network is here, I mean the consighnment like iSRO, then there would be no need for it. Then I would say limiting it back to 1 per PC.

Perhaps give it a try. See how it works. Get feedback from it and then see how people like it, or dislike it.


Stall network (Oldschool one) Not consignment (Modern iSro), will still require a physical stall opened to register items. So it will be there will be same stalls in the cities.

[rev6]

Stall network (Oldschool one) Not consignment (Modern iSro), will still require a physical stall opened to register items. So it will be there will be same stalls in the cities.

I was the modern one. I am not familiar with the oldschool one.

[HAX]

Increase PC limit to 2, and "as I wrote in my thread that got ignored" some issues can be managed, such as:
- Limit Job to 1 per PC; only 1 account can wear a job suit per PC, and if the player tries to put on job suit on the 2nd account.. would get disconnected on the 2nd account or both.
- Limi Fortress War to 1 per PC; like Job, only 1 account can get into fortress, if the player tried to get the 2nd account into fortress.. would get disconnected on the 2nd account or both.
- Stalling; IDK if something can be done to limit stalling to 1 account per PC or not, but it ain't a big issue like the 2 above

After all, it's not fair to players with 1 PC/Laptop to only be able to login 1 account, while others with 2~3 can login multiple accounts

Increase PC limit to 2, keep IP limit to 2.. try it for a week and check feedback after that

[Jossembert]

Don't allow 2 clients
Those who doesn't have a good performance pc won't be able to open 2 clients, and there is a lot of players with that condition


PD: ufff, imagine the possibilities with 2 clients in 1 pc
I can log in 2 char thief, to pick up the same loot, so for the very first time, i would pick it in like... 25seg, as u guys always do, and in that moment, i will feel fulfilled :'v

[sup3rior]

So let me give a simple situation, which i’d do if 2 accounts/pc/ip is enabled. Personally i have a PC,a laptop, and a work laptop all of which can perfectly run Origin without any problems. I will use my landline internet and two hotspots to open 6 ACCOUNTS PER ONE PLAYER. It won’t be bannable/illegal since i’m not using anything just the clients and the new policy which you will enable. I will be opening 3 bards/1 warrior/1 cleric/1 wizard, and just go ham wrecking the server economy and giving an un-realistic status of the number of active players. I wont event go into details with what Spartacuz stated about job or fortress war problems which will result from such a server wrecker change.
Mostly 99% of the people have a laptop and a PC with an access of multiple connections (hotspots/landline internet/wifi connections), so basically you’re allowing 4 accounts per player.

[RoXoR]

Hello,

I agree with everything being said in previous replies/OP. This would also open up abuse for academy. The only backlash with having only one client/pc currently is that when someone wants to stall something, they cannot play, but this is not the end of the world. However, allowing two clients/pc would carry a lot more disadvantages as explained before me. I'm eager to hear someone's opinion who is a proponent of this and see the points they bring up.

Thank you,

P.S.: Please nerf Bless Spell or increase cooldown time, thank you for the consideration.

[Simplicity]

Increase PC limit to 2, and "as I wrote in my thread that got ignored" some issues can be managed, such as:
- Limit Job to 1 per PC; only 1 account can wear a job suit per PC, and if the player tries to put on job suit on the 2nd account.. would get disconnected on the 2nd account or both.
- Limi Fortress War to 1 per PC; like Job, only 1 account can get into fortress, if the player tried to get the 2nd account into fortress.. would get disconnected on the 2nd account or both.
- Stalling; IDK if something can be done to limit stalling to 1 account per PC or not, but it ain't a big issue like the 2 above

After all, it's not fair to players with 1 PC/Laptop to only be able to login 1 account, while others with 2~3 can login multiple accounts

Increase PC limit to 2, keep IP limit to 2.. try it for a week and check feedback after that


Your thread didn't get ignored, it is approved. All thread and posts go through moderation and need to be approved by us first before going live.

[Miss_Leila]

Increase PC limit to 2, and "as I wrote in my thread that got ignored" some issues can be managed, such as:
- Limit Job to 1 per PC; only 1 account can wear a job suit per PC, and if the player tries to put on job suit on the 2nd account.. would get disconnected on the 2nd account or both.
- Limi Fortress War to 1 per PC; like Job, only 1 account can get into fortress, if the player tried to get the 2nd account into fortress.. would get disconnected on the 2nd account or both.
- Stalling; IDK if something can be done to limit stalling to 1 account per PC or not, but it ain't a big issue like the 2 above

After all, it's not fair to players with 1 PC/Laptop to only be able to login 1 account, while others with 2~3 can log in multiple accounts

Increase PC limit to 2, keep IP limit to 2.. try it for a week and check feedback after that


What do you want to do with two chars on the same computer? One char will be AFK either in plvl or stalling. And take one server slot, which doesn't allow another player to play. If you want to log in two chars, buy a second computer.

[rev6]

What do you want to do with two chars on the same computer? One char will be AFK either in plvl or stalling. And take one server slot, which doesn't allow another player to play. If you want to log in two chars, buy a second computer.

That's a really ridiculous way of looking at it.

[mdhg]

It's a great idea, I totally agree.


The opinions against are subjective, it is objectively true to say that this would help everyone, both for the PT, JOB, ARENA ETC


If they believe that this would give an advantage or misuse to traders, it would also apply to thief etc, it is a balance, it is absurd that we have to have 2 pc or laptop to be able to open 2 accounts or talk about 3,4,5 etc. would you have to buy 4 pc or laptop to open 4 accounts? lol, this is a great idea, but personally I totally agree with this.

[Simplicity]

We hear you. Keep the feedback comming.

[Tickmann]

What do you want to do with two chars on the same computer? One char will be AFK either in plvl or stalling. And take one server slot, which doesn't allow another player to play. If you want to log in two chars, buy a second computer.

So, if you have 2 computers, you can play both Chars at the same time? It makes no difference if you have one computer and two chars logged in or 2 computers with one char each...

I understand that some people (mostly those with 2 or more computers) dont like this idea and yes, it has disadvantages... but its unfair to say "buy a second computer if you want to play with 2 chars"

Another possibility would be IP Limit 1, so that nobody can log in more than 1 char, even if they have a second computer, but there would be many problems aswell (maybe 2 ppl living in one house etc, both want to play)


Test it with 2 chars per PC and decide after a week or two.

[Simplicity]

So, if you have 2 computers, you can play both Chars at the same time? It makes no difference if you have one computer and two chars logged in or 2 computers with one char each...

I understand that some people (mostly those with 2 or more computers) dont like this idea and yes, it has disadvantages... but its unfair to say "buy a second computer if you want to play with 2 chars"

Another possibility would be IP Limit 1, so that nobody can log in more than 1 char, even if they have a second computer, but there would be many problems aswell (maybe 2 ppl living in one house etc, both want to play)


Test it with 2 chars per PC and decide after a week or two.


Thta's a possibility. if the server remains constantly full, is to make IP limit 1.

[RoXoR]

It's a great idea, I totally agree.


The opinions against are subjective, it is objectively true to say that this would help everyone, both for the PT, JOB, ARENA ETC


If they believe that this would give an advantage or misuse to traders, it would also apply to thief etc, it is a balance, it is absurd that we have to have 2 pc or laptop to be able to open 2 accounts or talk about 3,4,5 etc. would you have to buy 4 pc or laptop to open 4 accounts? lol, this is a great idea, but personally I totally agree with this.

Not sure why it is absurd to have to have 2 pc to log two chars. What other MMORPG allows multi-client? Isro was killed because of the combination of bots & multi-client, we all know that. While I would also love to open 2 chars from the same pc, there are too many disadvantages. I'm from a thief union, if I have two pc and decide to make 4 trader alt chars, I will be able to do trades with chars and not be attacked... -> gold inflation off the roof. How would people like that... There would simply be too many ways to abuse this.

[Cerion89]

hello,

I dont like the idea off increasing the 2 accounts on 1 pc. if you wanne play on 2 accounts buy or use a second pc.
Its gowing to make the server overcrowded with afk chars. Im playing on 1 pc myself.

To all chins complaning over blezz spel if you want to nerf the skil down becouse of your own personal reasons ,no problem to me but nerf snowshield also. to ceep things the same on both sides of the silkroad race.
if this would ever happen (i hope not) i suggest a longer spawn time for both these skils if you realy want to nurf it down.

keep up the good work. greetz

[rApeNrUn]

I'm against it aswell! It will force the server to be more crowded and several arguments have been already given. (IP-Change by Hotspot, possibility of 4 trading chars, Job-Switching, SPYS!!, FGW, FW etc. etc.) I think the server is nice as it is. In every system there are people who benefit more or less, but I think this change would make it worse over all.

[rev6]

I'm against it aswell! It will force the server to be more crowded and several arguments have been already given. (IP-Change by Hotspot, possibility of 4 trading chars, Job-Switching, SPYS!!, FGW, FW etc. etc.) I think the server is nice as it is. In every system there are people who benefit more or less, but I think this change would make it worse over all.

You can't trace in job. I can't imagine running 4 traders, by hand, on 2 different computers. That would be take a special amount of control :)

[RoXoR]

hello,

I dont like the idea off increasing the 2 accounts on 1 pc. if you wanne play on 2 accounts buy or use a second pc.
Its gowing to make the server overcrowded with afk chars. Im playing on 1 pc myself.

To all chins complaning over blezz spel if you want to nerf the skil down becouse of your own personal reasons ,no problem to me but nerf snowshield also. to ceep things the same on both sides of the silkroad race.


if this would ever happen (i hope not) i suggest a longer spawn time for both these skils if you realy want to nurf it down.

keep up the good work. greetz

Snow Shield's cooldown time has already been increased, same could be done for bless. Or nerf both, I'm fine with that.

[Equate]

Hi,

I'm also scared about the consequences from this changes.

I can understand to decrease max ammount of devices per IP only issue I see is if ur living in a shared appartment and more ppl playing Origin there.

But the worst thing I guess is to increase maximum logins per Device. Almost everybody will start login a second useless char (Stall, spy, afk uniqe hunting, fw,taxi,.... almost a endless list)
Over all I'm sure the server activity will go down beacause its not that necessary to interact with others.
And those with more devices can still use multiple wifi and double there amount of logged chars.

I think there is no real reason to chance it may think again about it.

Best Regards

[0x33 Kappa]

did the ip limit change?

[Simplicity]

did the ip limit change?

Yes, from 5 to 2.

[Tynides]

I'm not a big fan of decreasing the IP Limit to 2. It was fine as it is. The only thing I'm okay with is the increase of PC Limit to 2 but still keep the IP Limit of 4. This way it doesn't force someone to buy another pc just to have another character if they want to plvl, stall while grinding, etc.

Anyway, I hope the IP Limit goes back to 4 as soon as possible. As of right now, with the IP Limit of 2, my friends who have 3 people playing Origin in their house can only have 2 playing now. Another 2 friends of mine who also live with each other can't log in their 3 characters (1 active per person, 1 stall) which isn't a big deal because the stall character doesn't interfere with normal game-play whenever we're together so it can be logged off. We usually play together whenever we're on and to have to exclude one person because of the sudden change is a deal-breaker for all of us. Until then, we'll take a break from Origin for awhile and maybe check back in a week or so to see if the IP Limit will go back to 4. We joined Origin primarily because of the "no bots", "low rates", and "4 IP Limit" enabling us all to play together...

[RoxXxor]

Most ppl who write dont do 2 acc on 1 pc are those ppl who do multi with 2 or more pc's. at least i remember some of there names ingame.

open hwid to 2 so every 1 got the sanem chances <3

[exvayzet]

will there be any voting for this ?

[mdhg]

You are wrong, because the disadvantages that you see being in a guild thief, are the same disadvantages that I see being in a guild trader, as I mentioned it is a balance, it benefits us all, it helps us all, both for trader and thief alike.


The difference lies in how we handle the advantages-disadvantages of each job.

[fred]

Good day!
1. 2 chars per pc should never be brought up here
2. 2 chars limit per IP is kinda unfair for someone who are playing in the internet cafe/cycber in other countries
3. Playing 3 chars or 4 chars to run a whole pt should be allowed, remember its not your money who they spent to buy pc just for this game, buy yours too if you want)
4. Job suiting penalty to 1 week, removed job suit if afk for more than one hour , so it will limit ppl to do both job at the same time,making the job system jeopardized(should be one job only ,in sro lifetime, not unless you will change to any other job )
4. Give back the spec time in our favourable time we got nothing to do with it that they choose to be thief and we choose to be traders, what if we where the thief, then we cant rob anyone in our time also bcoz spec time are closed)

Cheers 4Bros

[nubek]

I guess most people nowdays have 2 or more PCs in their homes so this way we could save some energy...
I suggest:
HWID Limit 2 and IP Limit 2
JOB / FW / CTF other activities IP Limit 1 (Even if some1 will bring trace warrior / bard on hot-spot they are basically without defence, which makes them easy to kill).

About stalls croding, nowdays it's difficult buying items which are not popular (at the moment not single robe 9dg item in stall nor harp), most people just npc drops since it's waste to run PC overnight just to sell low price items... Yet people still need them, every new player who has no gold etc is struggling after like 70lvl since it's almost impossible to find share/share parties (I still can't get used to so called taxies where plvler is 3lvl higher than mobs and need bunch of buffers to survive (warrior, cleric, bards - it's party and should be share/ share lol))

[Vargrym]

I think this is an objectively horrible idea.
You have to realize that if you allow two clients per hardware, you are also doubling the amount of characters that players with multiple hardwares can log. Meaning if somebody owns 3 or 4 PCs (and varied connections are not at all difficult to come by, any household owns multiple phones which can produce hotspots, or can use another connection or a VPN to bypass the IP limit), they can effectively log in 6, 8, perhaps more characters.
This would result in the server becoming isro lite. Perhaps not as far as bots are concerned, but you would have bards and warrior buffers tracing everywhere, double the amount of alt characters plaguing Arenas, stalling or spying at various docks and Trading npcs and thus taking up server slots, and as was already mentioned, people can log multiple Traders in a single caravan. This is bad for everyone, not any one particular job.
As Kashmir said, 1 client per PC is one of the best features Origin has, and it should never be compromised.

[Guerrero]

Muchachos mucha no sean pesimistas ...ni se implementa ya estan quejandoce....dejen trabajar al GM

[destroior]

People that have multiple PC's could run multiple characters. That is still possible today, albeit, only 2 now. This is not accounting for VPN's or proxies, I'm not sure how that's being handled with here.

Currently now people with access to more than a single PC have an advantage over everyone else. They can stall and grind, buff their main character, plvl a new one, whatever. This is an unfair advantage.

If you do enable 2 per PC but also stay with the 2 per IP rule, then it's fair for everyone. Yes I can see plenty of disadvantages for it also but I am looking at the possibility of stalling and grinding. That's really all I'd need it for. Once the stall network is here, I mean the consighnment like iSRO, then there would be no need for it. Then I would say limiting it back to 1 per PC.

Perhaps give it a try. See how it works. Get feedback from it and then see how people like it, or dislike it.

people with 2 pc's having advantage that will happen either way than instead of using 2 chars they will use 4 grow up and think before actually asking for stupid stuff

[Guerrero]

[QUOTE = HAX; 5639] Aumente el límite de PC a 2, y "como escribí en mi hilo que se ignoró", se pueden manejar algunos problemas, tales como:
- Limitar el trabajo a 1 por PC; solo 1 cuenta puede usar un traje de trabajo por PC, y si el jugador intenta ponerse el traje de trabajo en la segunda cuenta ... se desconectaría en la segunda cuenta o en ambas.
- Limi Fortress War a 1 por PC; Al igual que Job, solo 1 cuenta puede ingresar a la fortaleza, si el jugador intentara ingresar la segunda cuenta a la fortaleza ... se desconectaría de la segunda cuenta o de ambas.
- estancamiento; IDK si se puede hacer algo para limitar el bloqueo a 1 cuenta por PC o no, pero no es un gran problema como los 2 anteriores

Después de todo, no es justo que los jugadores con 1 PC / Laptop solo puedan iniciar sesión en 1 cuenta , mientras que otros con 2 ~ 3 pueden iniciar sesión en varias cuentas

Aumente el límite de PC a 2, mantenga el límite de IP a 2 ... pruébelo durante una semana y compruebe los comentarios después de eso [/ QUOTE]
LOGICO PRUEBEN PRIMERO NO DIGAN NO POR DECIR ......NO solo 25 jugadores juegn en este server y no todos viven en europa

[rev6]

I think this is an objectively horrible idea.
You have to realize that if you allow two clients per hardware, you are also doubling the amount of characters that players with multiple hardwares can log. Meaning if somebody owns 3 or 4 PCs (and varied connections are not at all difficult to come by, any household owns multiple phones which can produce hotspots, or can use another connection or a VPN to bypass the IP limit), they can effectively log in 6, 8, perhaps more characters.
This would result in the server becoming isro lite. Perhaps not as far as bots are concerned, but you would have bards and warrior buffers tracing everywhere, double the amount of alt characters plaguing Arenas, stalling or spying at various docks and Trading npcs and thus taking up server slots, and as was already mentioned, people can log multiple Traders in a single caravan. This is bad for everyone, not any one particular job.
As Kashmir said, 1 client per PC is one of the best features Origin has, and it should never be compromised.

Isn't the IP limit 2?

[Simplicity]

Hello,

Thank you everyone for your feedback.

We have the information we needed to make a decision. Multi-client will NOT be enabled at Origin Online.

#Closed

Regards,