Very serious problem after this update

[Paulfrommars]

Every since my first day here in Origin Online i have been trying to support server and been doing my part of recruiting more SRO players to join our server and defend our server on elitepvpers from toxic people trying to destroy our growing community, I have helped countless people ingame and made alot of friends. But the current situation ingame is just killing me inside just lost some of my ingame friends because of the current update even some of the new players i meet the past few days decided to quit. I am in full support of reducing game abuse and all coz i dont even farm these boxes. The problem is the impact the current update made to the economy and the moral of players ingame is really bad, i just logged in and the first thing i see are people are quitting. You should have made a poll for this in Facebook or here in forums it is just soo bad you made the same mistake as before (reducing alchemy rate) you did not consult people before implementing something important ingame. You should already know by now that people who actually plays the game matters you should have asked us about our opinion or of some other means of fixing this case not just suddenly give a really bad update. I wrote this here soo that you would know the way people feel ingame 80-90% of people ingame this the update was the shittiest move it wasnt planned out well or thinked out too well for the improvement of the server. I am against game abuse or things like that but the adjustment you made affected alot of things ingame and people know it. There must have been a better way of doing this or resolving the problem. I am very disappointed in the current situation an moral ingame. I hope you read this soo you would also know how most of the players ingame feel.

[Waylin]

problem is, you guys [GMs] cant fathom into the fact that alot of people are not gonna use forums ever and are just gonna quit if you don't start interacting and taking opinions ingame and out of the game too,and this update shows the lack of communication between you and the players, also lack in understanding their status and the state the server is in:)

[IceMilk]

Every since my first day here in Origin Online i have been trying to support server and been doing my part of recruiting more SRO players to join our server and defend our server on elitepvpers from toxic people trying to destroy our growing community, I have helped countless people ingame and made alot of friends. But the current situation ingame is just killing me inside just lost some of my ingame friends because of the current update even some of the new players i meet the past few days decided to quit. I am in full support of reducing game abuse and all coz i dont even farm these boxes. The problem is the impact the current update made to the economy and the moral of players ingame is really bad, i just logged in and the first thing i see are people are quitting. You should have made a poll for this in Facebook or here in forums it is just soo bad you made the same mistake as before (reducing alchemy rate) you did not consult people before implementing something important ingame. You should already know by now that people who actually plays the game matters you should have asked us about our opinion or of some other means of fixing this case not just suddenly give a really bad update. I wrote this here soo that you would know the way people feel ingame 80-90% of people ingame this the update was the shittiest move it wasnt planned out well or thinked out too well for the improvement of the server. I am against game abuse or things like that but the adjustment you made affected alot of things ingame and people know it. There must have been a better way of doing this or resolving the problem. I am very disappointed in the current situation an moral ingame. I hope you read this soo you would also know how most of the players ingame feel.

I'm not even sure what aspect of the update you dislike, could you be a bit more specific? Is it about the box drop or the attempt to prevent autoselect/keypressers?

Just in case you're talking about the boxes: This was a good move in the right direction. The server economy shouldn't rely on things like these boxes. People started to farm them with a whole party consisting only of their characters and got infinite amounts of elixirs and gold. Though gold is a resource that should be generated by other activities such as jobbing, selling good drops to other players (player2player economy in general), fortress war and others.

[Waylin]

I'm not even sure what aspect of the update you dislike, could you be a bit more specific? Is it about the box drop or the attempt to prevent autoselect/keypressers?

Just in case you're talking about the boxes: This was a good move in the right direction. The server economy shouldn't rely on things like these boxes. People started to farm them with a whole party consisting only of their characters and got infinite amounts of elixirs and gold. Though gold is a resource that should be generated by other activities such as jobbing, selling good drops to other players (player2player economy in general), fortress war and others.

Jobbing, half of the routes are closed and traders are going into caravans, thieves cant do anything
good drops? what drops exactly are you talking about?
the fortress's gold income is not even that much^^ and it'll get lower because of such updates
P2P economy depends on taxis/unique drops/alchemy
taxis now?aren't going to be affordable at any rate
Unique drops?dont exist
Alchemy?with what? the elixirs that are gonna go extinct?
are you even in the game with us^^?

[gT3]

I am new to the server, I thought I will farm sp in DW cave, I bought Premium.. And now when I reached higher gap, they reduced spawn rate that mobs spawn so slowly that the cave is empty after few minutes.. From lvl 1-65 I loved the spawn rate and now they fcked it up. Why?

[IceMilk]

Jobbing, half of the routes are closed and traders are going into caravans, thieves cant do anything

Why can't thieves do anything? That statement is just not true. There are many thieves and they rob carvans regularly and now that Exile guild is going to thief too it will be even more dangerous. Though the triangular conflict is supposed to be a hard fight, isn't it?



good drops? what drops exactly are you talking about?

I am talking about good drops. Equipment with nice % or blues such as immo or others, SoX items and item that you enhance and sell in the end. +7 for example can be sold for 300m onwards and yes I know that +7 is not easy to achieve. No one said that you will be granted money for free. Silkroad is an mmorpg and they're hard and especially Silkroad is not giving you anything for free, this is basically the fun in this game.



the fortress's gold income is not even that much^^ and it'll get lower because of such updates


FW gold is not much indeed, though it is a source of income. Fight for it.



P2P economy depends on taxis/unique drops/alchemy

Yes, P2P economy depends on items/taxis or if you want to say it a bit more economic you could say it depends on all goods and services of other players. That's basically like in any other game or in the real world economy.



taxis now?aren't going to be affordable at any rate

If everyone have less money the prices for taxi will drop too. You need a basic understanding of economy. Even if that wouldn't be true, there are way to many taxis in my opinion. New players struggle to find a party due to too many taxis which shouldn't be the sense of a non-bot server.



Unique drops?dont exist

Did I miss something here? Unique drops weren't touched in the latest updates, so it's literally the same as before. Correct me if I'm mistaken.



Alchemy?with what? the elixirs that are gonna go extinct?

There are still plenty of elixirs. You can drop them, get them from BA (which will be important with this update) and you can still get them from boxes. I don't see how it was more fair when some players collected boxes (elixirs) with 8 characters at the same time while others get 1/8 of the amount.

PS: I think there will come other ways to obtain elixirs/alchemy stones with the next updates, because tablets will be removed too. A statement from the server team would be appreciated here.



are you even in the game with us^^?

Sure, I am, but I also think about the effects that will take place by this update and the series of reactions that applies to other game mechanics that we have right now.

[Atif]

Good update i like it- now elixirs will cost more ,and new players will just sell them for gold ,it will not hurt newcomers.And when 9d come they will be even expensive.Job activity will be higher now and this is good thing.
Better to sell 10 elixirs for 50 mil than 25 elixirs for 50 mil ;)
And one more thing if GMs listen to all who whine , this server will be full of bots/keypersser partys , or everyone will walk with + 12 sets and all will be warriors full kralls -->bless spell FTW. you just cant make All happy....
Good job Origin team - Im with you as long you keep server legit :)
Cheers !!!

[Mercy]

Good update i like it- now elixirs will cost more ,and new players will just sell them for gold ,it will not hurt newcomers.And when 9d come they will be even expensive.Job activity will be higher now and this is good thing.
Better to sell 10 elixirs for 50 mil than 25 elixirs for 50 mil ;)
And one more thing if GMs listen to all who whine , this server will be full of bots/keypersser partys , or everyone will walk with + 12 sets and all will be warriors full kralls -->bless spell FTW. you just cant make All happy....
Good job Origin team - Im with you as long you keep server legit :)
Cheers !!!

This is just pure nonsense. I belong to the part of the community who's complaining and I don't even have a full +5 set. Trades get boring always in the same maps and the server is fully pay to win lol.
And I noticed you only mentioned bless spell on that comment but maybe you didn't realize it, it isn't the only thing, and it's absolutely unfair/stupid. I am still waiting for someone to tell me a reason to ban Reverse Oblation, or even group ress.
You people already defended bless spell, without any logic or balance whatsoever, so do the same for the other ones. Are they unbalanced? Are they soo much hard to deal with? I mean ressurecting people was never a problem.

Reverse oblation is just a simple ress just like grad reverse, not special at all and not even worth being banned.
Group Reverse is a group ress that ressurects the whole party in range which mostly only happens after winning a fight, rewarding them for winning it. So what the .... is the huge problem about it? None.

[Mercy]

And how can you say the server is staying legit? It changes every piece of real silkroad origin it has lol
You wanna know why these bless, ress bans dont exist in offical sro? Because they suck and only create unbalance and negativity.

[Atif]

Legit = play by hand , not with bot or keypresser , its just my opinion so chill out :)
In every server that I play EU> china here they try to balance them..
And i dont even play china , eu are much more fun and party oriented. Im not here to play isro x5 rates - I like what Origin team want to build here. About Pay 2 Win thing - how is pay 2 win when you can get everything with ingame gold? Its pay 2 Speed ,not pay 2 win.

[scpmiguel]

Legit = play by hand , not with bot or keypresser , its just my opinion so chill out :)
In every server that I play EU> china here they try to balance them..
And i dont even play china , eu are much more fun and party oriented. Im not here to play isro x5 rates - I like what Origin team want to build here. About Pay 2 Win thing - how is pay 2 win when you can get everything with ingame gold? Its pay 2 Speed ,not pay 2 win.

hey there again
On that we agree, here to play classic sro etc etc
They didn't balance it by removing those 3 skills, they just made EU class dead in 1-3 shots while chinese got their walls, snow shield and no delay pots + vigors = dead with a whole party attacking him only
snow shield is blocking 1/2 of the dmg, do you think thats balanced considering europeans dont get that?
It really isnt...


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It is pay to win on the aspects that if you buy silk you buy everything super fast beating normal players who dont buy silk, so they get their op gear in a second and become super strong while others cant do shit and dont have any skills to defend themselves either

[Mercy]

even amid these changes there are very unbalanced things and if they are going to change euros, they must adapt chinese as well, they are over powered

[Waylin]

Why can't thieves do anything? That statement is just not true. There are many thieves and they rob carvans regularly and now that Exile guild is going to thief too it will be even more dangerous. Though the triangular conflict is supposed to be a hard fight, isn't it?


I am talking about good drops. Equipment with nice % or blues such as immo or others, SoX items and item that you enhance and sell in the end. +7 for example can be sold for 300m onwards and yes I know that +7 is not easy to achieve. No one said that you will be granted money for free. Silkroad is an mmorpg and they're hard and especially Silkroad is not giving you anything for free, this is basically the fun in this game.



FW gold is not much indeed, though it is a source of income. Fight for it.


Yes, P2P economy depends on items/taxis or if you want to say it a bit more economic you could say it depends on all goods and services of other players. That's basically like in any other game or in the real world economy.


If everyone have less money the prices for taxi will drop too. You need a basic understanding of economy. Even if that wouldn't be true, there are way to many taxis in my opinion. New players struggle to find a party due to too many taxis which shouldn't be the sense of a non-bot server.


Did I miss something here? Unique drops weren't touched in the latest updates, so it's literally the same as before. Correct me if I'm mistaken.


There are still plenty of elixirs. You can drop them, get them from BA (which will be important with this update) and you can still get them from boxes. I don't see how it was more fair when some players collected boxes (elixirs) with 8 characters at the same time while others get 1/8 of the amount.

PS: I think there will come other ways to obtain elixirs/alchemy stones with the next updates, because tablets will be removed too. A statement from the server team would be appreciated here.



Sure, I am, but I also think about the effects that will take place by this update and the series of reactions that applies to other game mechanics that we have right now.


-Exile aren't changing to thief job^^

-sos items are a rare thing still and you cant depend on it/items with immo are sold with 25m max good % is easy to get so it isnt worth much/items+7? yeah no more players will get any of those if the elixirs case stays the same?new players wont even evolve enough to get as strong as the Full+9 set players too^^

-first of all, the base of the gold in the server(trading) profit is determined then all that is to come after depends on it such as the prices of things and taxis, what you are saying is that taxis fee will drop but the trading profit wont so yeah let's make a job only server:)

what you are stating is complete nonsense bro, i can basically give you the list of the names of people that make taxis and it wont pas 15 people around the server,and yeah people struggle to find a ptt tbh im pretty sure of that but that when i started the game there was alot of ptts and dilligent players and most of them quit due to the inactivity of the gms in the server^^

you'll be surprised by the amount of donators you meet in a niya taxi, basically if that is the economy you're talking about, you must be joking:)

Goodluck facing the full +ed players from better alchemy rates and elixir drops to everyone that joins the server from now on^^

[Waylin]

Good update i like it- now elixirs will cost more ,and new players will just sell them for gold ,it will not hurt newcomers.And when 9d come they will be even expensive.Job activity will be higher now and this is good thing.
Better to sell 10 elixirs for 50 mil than 25 elixirs for 50 mil ;)
And one more thing if GMs listen to all who whine , this server will be full of bots/keypersser partys , or everyone will walk with + 12 sets and all will be warriors full kralls -->bless spell FTW. you just cant make All happy....
Good job Origin team - Im with you as long you keep server legit :)
Cheers !!!

if you call constructive critique whinning, all i can do is applauding to you^^

[Mercy]

if you call constructive critique whinning, all i can do is applauding to you^^

Wow i admire you
You put into words everything my brain thought but couldn't turn into anything xD
I think he is the one person on the server happy with the GMs lol
Thanks for those arguments <3 Let's hope GM's finally notice us or stop ignoring us and do something about it
We're the community and the community is the game
Without us there is no server, so it would only be normal to do what the community wants

[Atif]

When 90 cap come this will solve gap between players with ++++ from old alchemy rates.Some players like balance changes others not, how GM can make both sides happy?
Everything i said is my opinion i dont care if GM will listen you or me, I like this server and I will play no mater what. There is no alternative for non bot server -so enjoy it while you can.

[Waylin]

When 90 cap come this will solve gap between players with ++++ from old alchemy rates.Some players like balance changes others not, how GM can make both sides happy?
Everything i said is my opinion i dont care if GM will listen you or me, I like this server and I will play no mater what. There is no alternative for non bot server -so enjoy it while you can.

so everyone should get capped quitely till cap 90 comes online, okke dokke

[Mercy]

When 90 cap come this will solve gap between players with ++++ from old alchemy rates.Some players like balance changes others not, how GM can make both sides happy?
Everything i said is my opinion i dont care if GM will listen you or me, I like this server and I will play no mater what. There is no alternative for non bot server -so enjoy it while you can.

LOOOOL who likes unbalance, tell me please AHAAH
That was honestly the worst thing you said here.

[Atif]

You dont like balance changes here and i like them. There is only one thing in last update that i dont like- box drop rate its rly low.

[Mercy]

Dude what the hell are you talking about?
When did I say I don't like balance changes? lol

[Catty]

Hello, first some backstory. I joined the server like 2 weeks ago and I had so much fun. People are awesome and active.
Now to the problem. I totally agree that jewel boxes should not be abused and fixing that was fine, but that brought us another issues. Shortage of elixirs. I know what some of you might say get money and buy them, the problem is almost no one sells them. My suggestion is to consider some way of elixir supply. I bet you can come with decent ideas. First thing that comes to my mind is add huge amount of elixirs in flame mountain fgw. Thank you for your time!

[Paddy]

Hello, first some backstory. I joined the server like 2 weeks ago and I had so much fun. People are awesome and active.
Now to the problem. I totally agree that jewel boxes should not be abused and fixing that was fine, but that brought us another issues. Shortage of elixirs. I know what some of you might say get money and buy them, the problem is almost no one sells them. My suggestion is to consider some way of elixir supply. I bet you can come with decent ideas. First thing that comes to my mind is add huge amount of elixirs in flame mountain fgw. Thank you for your time!
Best idea so far!

[Mercy]

It's a nice idea, but there should be a cleaner way to do so since FGW restricts you to a certain time cooldown...
They should increase elixir drop everywhere including FGW instances and get and/or get a decent event where we can get elixirs easier.
Elixir price is rising stupidly and there's hardly any way to make the money we need for the tons of elixirs alchemy uses just to fail at +2 or +3 >.<
At this rate those who get +2 sets are the most op in the server lol.
We need elixirs!

[phazon]

I think the jewel box should only drop to 50+ players, in order to avoid thos low level accounts of farming them, even in plvl parties.
BUT, keep that drop rate in parties, in order to have more parties ON. Parties are dying since the update, as the server.
This is, by far, the best Silkroad I've play (above 10x rate servers are just not fun, and this rate is good to the the grinding bearable.) And I would like it to keep on growing, but with these drastic changes(which in part make sense because of ingame economy, but still to drastic) alot of people will leave.
All the other changes are good specially the ones against botting.