Dual axes

[Geh]

Hi all, I'd like to share some thoughts I've had on my mind for some time now. I'd like to hear what you think of making Dual axes into a viable main weapon. I've always liked their concept, the visuals of items and skills. But you gotta admit they have no other use than a stun on switch for a 2h sword.

My argument is that two other warrior weapons have their big strengths, especially two-handed sword, while the axes are reduced to another crowd control for the main weapon. 2h has that insane dmg combined with increased crit chance, 1h has the ability to completely negate incoming damage (I'm speaking of block). Dual axes have increased attack rate (free Mangyang baloon lol), built-in Holy Word and a tad bit of physical def (still less then 1h passive). If you test axes' damage and compare it to the other warrior weapons you'll see that 1h is practically equal and 2h at least doubles it - and that's with the massive crits out of the equation. Axes' skills are also multi-hit combos, meaning no huge crit numbers.

I believe that the concept for this weapon was to make it something in between the other two, but it ended up being almost useless, with 90% of its skills completely redundant. What needs to be decided is to whether it should focus on the offensive or the defensive or maybe countering a specific mechanic that exists in the game.


Now, the idea is to make the axes into a viable main weapon without indirectly buffing the other weapons. This could be done by buffing the passives or the 70 and 80 attack skills. I realise that this server is going for the minimum changes to the original sro approach and I admire it, so these could be some minor buffs to the already existing values.


My ideas are:
- Increase the numbers of passive phy defense and/or add mag defense value to this passive,
- Rework phy defense passive into a small dmg absorption,
- Change the flat attack rating value to % value,
- Increase the dmg (%) values of Deadly Counter and Crutial Rush skills (and their low level versions). I especially emphasize this one because it's hard to believe that 1h and axes having equal dps was intended.


More extreme ideas:
- Rework attack rating passive into weapon blocking ratio passive - the one decreasing enemy's BR. This could be the mechanic the axes would counter,
- Rework one of the passives into some HP increase passive, buffing survivability against both mag and phy dmg.


What I'd consider a bad idea is giving the attack skills a chance to apply any debuff, since it could be utilised through weapon switch.
Side note - Axis Quiver skill is f-ing useless, it practically never stuns more than 1 out of 4 targets. :P You might consider buffing it too.


Thanks for reading through this wall of text. I just think it would be really awesome if some minor changes could introduce a brand new, viable build into the game. Let me know what you think about all this and feel free to give your own ideas.

[danio551]

i know its an old post, but these are some golden ideas.
Axe is very cool weapon and i love the suggestion to counter shields, that would be a great counter to very powerfull nukers s/s. also changing attack rate passive to % value is very good. I dont want axe to become just better switch/debuff weapon for already strong 2h users too and im not sure about all the survivability change ideas. But adding some mag resistances is always usefull, cuz the server feels like its run by wizards and nukers 2shotting you and taking hits for less than 1k cuz of buffs and gear combined

anyway great suggestion, hope gm will buff axe even a little bit <3

[Cerion89]

Hello,

I say no to this.
Using this god like axes you want is gowing to make warrior way to over powerd.
int eur chars need blezz if they wanne pvp a warrior atm. so adding this would be to over powerd.

I like your idea ,but it wont be fun to play against.

[Graphix]

Better nerf dare devil a bit , can’t be real that a warrior 1hits a full int warlock with +10-12 set without crt .

[Cerion89]

i have to agree wight graphix. This skil can use a littel nerf it kils in 1 att int eur chars.
If one of the 2 moves is a crit ,eur chars are dead.

[Demonic]

There are so many ways to 1-shot EU int chars, its not about the warriors. Spearnukers can 1 hit them, too yet noone complains.
Nonsense to talk about such things. You want a PVP char? go create one.

[Cerion89]

it's not only about the pvp but it to improve game play for all races and creating fun instead of one shotting each other.
if we all go make a hybrid spear or a str warrior this server is getting boring real fast.

Give other builds a surviving change to.

greets